Don’t second guess the Special Forces guys!
March 11th, 2008, 8:51 am · 2 Comments · posted by jhogg
Seriously. These guys are the best at what they do. This isn’t some vague term, as in “they are one of the best,” or “they are pretty good,” or “gee, golly, these guys are neat.” The army Special Forces and Delta operators are the best at what they do.
That being said, why someone with a Meritorious Freeway Driving medal, carpal tunnel and fallen arches is allowed to jerk the tools out of these guys’ hands is just a freaking mystery.
The Army has stripped the Asymmetric Warfare Group of its weapon of choice - the Heckler & Koch 416 - saying that its mission requires the unique outfit to carry the standard issue M4 carbine.
The decision reverses a policy that allowed the AWG to buy 416s instead of carrying M4s when it was established three years ago to help senior Army leaders find new tactics and technologies to make soldiers more lethal in combat.
Members of the AWG have declined to comment on the issue, but sources in the
416s, arguing that they outperform the Army’s
community told Army Times that the unit fought to keep its several hundred M4 and require far less maintenance.
I don’t know who finds themselves qualified to argue with these guys about what weapons work best. I’m more than willing to have a discussion about what I do. But if you try to criticize my writing style while being illiterate, yourself, I’m not likely to take you seriously. The guys of Army Special Operations don’t use their weapons in some vague laboratory setting with such and yon variable to determine functionality in this and that environmental condition, they take their boom sticks to far and nasty places and use them to complete their missions and come home.
Having hauled the M-16 (which, internally is the exact same as the M-4) through Kuwaiti dust storms, I can attest to the fact that the damn thing didn’t work as intended. It jammed, it fouled, it would fire, at most, two shots before remedial action was required to get it to go BANG again. The crappy direct impingement gas system, as opposed to piston-driven, simply lacks the reliability to perform in the field. This has been proven and tested time and time again.
More from the Army Times:
This is the latest round of controversy surrounding the M4 since late November, when the weapon finished last in an Army reliability test against several other carbines.
The M4 suffered more stoppages than the combined number of jams by the three other competitors - the Heckler & Koch XM8, FNH USA’s Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle (SCAR) and the H&K 416.
Army weapons officials agreed to perform the dust test at the request of Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., in July. Coburn took up the issue following a Feb. 26 Army Times report on moves by elite Army Special Forces units to ditch the M4 in favor of carbines they consider more reliable. Since then, Coburn has questioned the Army’s plans to spend more than $300 million to purchase M4s through fiscal 2009 rather than considering newer and possibly better weapons available on the commercial market.
This is the same Army full of fire and brimstone for Rumsfeldian “transformation.” How about we worry less about a go-go gadget army and more about the basics, like functioning rifles.
















March 12th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Thank you! Your valiant services for our country are much appreciated. Yeah, functioning rifles, who’dathunkit?
March 15th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Agreed. One would think that the chair bound warriors would be asking the opinions of the SF guys and using that info to get them what they need, instead of dictating what they could use. Money and politics have been getting our guys killed via substandard equipment my entire lifetime. In Vietnam it was the M-16 (the little black rifle that wouldn’t shoot), right now in Iraq it is the interceptor body armor, foisted on our guys instead of superior equipment because four West Pointers conspired to falsify testing results for a chance at big bucks from the Military Industrial Complex.
And all our guys can do is either take the second rate equipment, or get out of the service. And with such mercenary units as the republican fundraising, above the law Blackwater Inc. standing in the wings to
offer the SF soldiers a tax free salary ten times the amount of their
military pay, (with the finest equipment money can buy instead of politically chosen gear) there has been a revolving door among SF soldiers. It takes years and big bucks to train them, and then the USA doesn’t get their services, insuring a steady procession of newbies instead of seasoned veterans on the battlefield.
And I doubt that this sorry situation will be fixed any time soon, if ever.